Best machine-able "Damascus" metals : Making rings

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Best machine-able "Damascus" metals : Making rings JohnFlyTn 09-07-2005
Posted by John Husvar on September 9, 2005, 7:42 am
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> <snip;>
> > GA
>
> Oooo... GA, your post about Ag and bronze reminded me of some really
> cool belt buckels and other gaudy-jewlery made from layers of red
> and yellow brass and I guess a couple colors of nickel-silver. It
> was sooo cool and I'm usually not interested in anything artsyfartsy
> like that. :) It was simply silver soldered layers even, but still
> cool looking as anything. :)
>
> But real silver and real tin-based-bronze (with no zinc) would
> prob'ly work. Some people don't turn green (and stinky) from copper
> and others get green with 10K gold. So it'll depend on who wears it?
>
> The "precious metals" are just that, I guess. ;)
>
> OP, I think I know what you're getting at tho, I've panned and
> "creavsed" gold and the "boring yellow stuff" just doesn't do a
> thing for me anymore.
>
> I'd rather trade my gold in for stuff made of steel. YMMV :)
>
> Alvin in AZ

<chuckle> I wonder how many of us are old enough to remember when
Stainless Steel (It was capitalized in them thar days!) was
comparatively rare and expensive, was considered a semi-precious metal,
and was used in some mid-costly jewelry.

I grew up through the late 40s, and early 50s. I recall my father being
very pleased when he got a stainless steel watch for Fathers' Day.

That fad only lasted a short time before stainless became commonly used.

Posted by jenni.chris on September 9, 2005, 5:01 am
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You could try pure iron. James Binnion has done some pretty cool rings. Take
a look at
http://www.mokume-gane.com/Pages/Photos/PtFe.html

Chris




> As for nickel allergy, I plan to solder a thin silver band on the
> inside of the ring, this should make skin contact almost non existant.
>
> I've forge welded stainless before... Not that much though. As far as
> equipment I have access to a decent coal burning forge, various presses
> and grinders... Thats about it.
>
> As long as the pattern has a light/dark I dont care what grade or type
> of metals I use... Just that its not impossible to join them and not
> going to eat up all my tools when I try to drill / grind them to shape.
>
>
> So I guess my wants are metals that:
>
> cheap
> not going to kill my tools (drills, grinders)
> Will bond very good in a coal forge
> will leave a good high contrast light/dark pattern..
>
>
> Thank you all for the help and suggestions and help
>



Posted by mrbonaparte on September 9, 2005, 12:40 pm
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Check this out, it's metorite metal. Very Interesting
http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/gallery/pages/ploof02.shtml


jenni.chris wrote:
> You could try pure iron. James Binnion has done some pretty cool
> rings. Take a look at
> http://www.mokume-gane.com/Pages/Photos/PtFe.html
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>> As for nickel allergy, I plan to solder a thin silver band on the
>> inside of the ring, this should make skin contact almost non
>> existant.
>>
>> I've forge welded stainless before... Not that much though. As far
>> as equipment I have access to a decent coal burning forge, various
>> presses and grinders... Thats about it.
>>
>> As long as the pattern has a light/dark I dont care what grade or
>> type of metals I use... Just that its not impossible to join them
>> and not going to eat up all my tools when I try to drill / grind
>> them to shape.
>>
>>
>> So I guess my wants are metals that:
>>
>> cheap
>> not going to kill my tools (drills, grinders)
>> Will bond very good in a coal forge
>> will leave a good high contrast light/dark pattern..
>>
>>
>> Thank you all for the help and suggestions and help



Posted by Greyangel on September 10, 2005, 11:26 am
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Gotta admit, the iron and platnum version looks a lot cooler than the all
precious (white) metals. Neat stuff though, all of it. For myself - I'm a
copper enthusiest. Been meaning to make some copper and silver Mokume for
fittings and jewelry. Just haven't got there yet :-) So much to do in such
a short life.

GA

> You could try pure iron. James Binnion has done some pretty cool rings.
Take
> a look at
> http://www.mokume-gane.com/Pages/Photos/PtFe.html
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> > As for nickel allergy, I plan to solder a thin silver band on the
> > inside of the ring, this should make skin contact almost non existant.
> >
> > I've forge welded stainless before... Not that much though. As far as
> > equipment I have access to a decent coal burning forge, various presses
> > and grinders... Thats about it.
> >
> > As long as the pattern has a light/dark I dont care what grade or type
> > of metals I use... Just that its not impossible to join them and not
> > going to eat up all my tools when I try to drill / grind them to shape.
> >
> >
> > So I guess my wants are metals that:
> >
> > cheap
> > not going to kill my tools (drills, grinders)
> > Will bond very good in a coal forge
> > will leave a good high contrast light/dark pattern..
> >
> >
> > Thank you all for the help and suggestions and help
> >
>
>



Posted by doug roberts on September 22, 2005, 9:08 pm
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Try 52100, high chrome alloy used for ball bearing and bearing races with
mild steel. I think you will get a good contrast, at low cost that shouldnt
be too hard to work and polish. Also should avoid the niclel desease, though
there may be a chrome one
Doug
> As for nickel allergy, I plan to solder a thin silver band on the
> inside of the ring, this should make skin contact almost non existant.
>
> I've forge welded stainless before... Not that much though. As far as
> equipment I have access to a decent coal burning forge, various presses
> and grinders... Thats about it.
>
> As long as the pattern has a light/dark I dont care what grade or type
> of metals I use... Just that its not impossible to join them and not
> going to eat up all my tools when I try to drill / grind them to shape.
>
>
> So I guess my wants are metals that:
>
> cheap
> not going to kill my tools (drills, grinders)
> Will bond very good in a coal forge
> will leave a good high contrast light/dark pattern..
>
>
> Thank you all for the help and suggestions and help
>



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