Does Anyone Here Do Neon (It's Enclosed In Glass!)?

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Does Anyone Here Do Neon (It's Enclosed In Glass!)? Joe 11-08-2008
Posted by Joe on November 8, 2008, 5:25 pm
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Well, the Subject line says it all, at least for now.

Actually, I need to know what size drill to use to open up a LP screen on my
ribbon burner for use with Natural Gas.

Jeez, this ng has been kinda dead for the past few weeks. Look what happens when
one guy retires...

Joe

Posted by Steve Ackman on November 8, 2008, 9:30 pm
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17:25:11 -0500, Joe, jgandalf1@gwizmail.com wrote:
> Well, the Subject line says it all, at least for now.
>
> Actually, I need to know what size drill to use to open up a LP screen on my
> ribbon burner for use with Natural Gas.

Since LP contains roughly 2.4 times the energy per
cubic foot as natural gas, the area of the orifice for
natural gas would need to be 2.4 times the one for LP
given the same pressure. Possibly (probably?) you won't
have the same pressure, but since I have almost no
experience with Natural gas, I wouldn't stake anything
on that.

I'm not sure what you mean by "screen" but if it's
as I'm envisioning, I think you want to open (or
preferably change) the jet rather than the screen.

About the only experience I have with changing a gas
orifice size is this (which doesn't really apply to
your situation, but being as it's essentially the same
thing as a ribbon burner, might be of interest
nonetheless):
http://wizard.dyndns.org/machine/gas-jets.html

> Jeez, this ng has been kinda dead for the past few weeks. Look what
> happens when one guy retires...

You might want to ping Neon John in
alt.energy.homepower to drop by here for a better
answer.

--
☯☯



Posted by Javahut on November 9, 2008, 3:16 pm
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> 17:25:11 -0500, Joe, jgandalf1@gwizmail.com wrote:
>> Well, the Subject line says it all, at least for now.
>>
>> Actually, I need to know what size drill to use to open up a LP screen on
>> my
>> ribbon burner for use with Natural Gas.
>
> Since LP contains roughly 2.4 times the energy per
> cubic foot as natural gas, the area of the orifice for
> natural gas would need to be 2.4 times the one for LP
> given the same pressure. Possibly (probably?) you won't
> have the same pressure, but since I have almost no
> experience with Natural gas, I wouldn't stake anything
> on that.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "screen" but if it's
> as I'm envisioning, I think you want to open (or
> preferably change) the jet rather than the screen.
>
> About the only experience I have with changing a gas
> orifice size is this (which doesn't really apply to
> your situation, but being as it's essentially the same
> thing as a ribbon burner, might be of interest
> nonetheless):
> http://wizard.dyndns.org/machine/gas-jets.html
>
>> Jeez, this ng has been kinda dead for the past few weeks. Look what
>> happens when one guy retires...
>
> You might want to ping Neon John in
> alt.energy.homepower to drop by here for a better
> answer.
>
> --
> ??
>
Hey Joe, did you try the manufacturer or distributor of the burner to ask
them about the orfice, and that is what you want to change, not the screen.
You need a larger jet, but I don't know for sure how much larger without
knowing your burner. I have a friend that ran NG with his ribbon burner and
I could drop him a note to find out what he uses at what pressure.

Without questions, there isn't much activity.



Posted by Moonraker on November 9, 2008, 4:20 pm
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> Without questions, there isn't much activity.


I've got a question, then?

Where's my long-promised DVD on making molds? ROTFLMAO



Posted by The Shadow on November 11, 2008, 12:07 am
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>
>> Without questions, there isn't much activity.
>
>
> I've got a question, then?
>
> Where's my long-promised DVD on making molds? ROTFLMAO
Hey, I got the ZingBrush on You Tube didn't I? What else you want?
You need to get that zingbrush web page going, for serious, I put that
address up there and then went looking and got surprised!!

You don't need that DVD, you got me!



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