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Posted by Jan on July 1, 2008, 12:31 pm
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A Buyer's Guide to Newer Fenton Items:
http://easyurl.net/FentonArtGlass
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Posted by Not Jan on July 1, 2008, 4:29 pm
Please log in for more thread options 2008 10:31:36 -0600 (MDT), Jan, nobody@pseudo.borked.net wrote:
> A Buyer's Guide to Newer Fenton Items:
>
> http://easyurl.net/...
The mystery URL goes to a http://reviews.ebay.com/... page, the
content of which follows:
Fenton Art Glass
The Fenton Art Glass Comapny has been providing us with stunning pieces
of art glass for many many years. This guide has been written to guide
eBay buyers to make excellent decisions when making a purchase.
*Some of the basic questions buyers need to ask are discussed herin. You
should get answers to these questions from a seller if the answers to
the questions are not in the description.
Lets us start with some basics
1) Dimensions of a piece. The size of the piece can effect the price
greatly. Often Fenton makes like items in different sizes. This is
especially true of Fenton animals. They come in a large variety of
sizes.Larger pieces command a higher price. Example of this are the
Fenton Stylized cats. Those came in several sizes. The larger ones are
worth more.
2) The color of the glass. Lets face it. Some colors are in much more
higher demand than others and carry a premium price tag to go with them.
Some items made in Carnival Glass, Rosaline or Burmese glass are highly
sought after but are expensive. Always comparison shop these items. TIP:
It may be a good idea to make an offer on an item during the last few
hours of bidding if no one has placed a bid on the item. Sellers may
bite if the offer is reasonable! Saving you some money on the cost of
the item.
3) Limited editions. Fenton often produces many limited edition items,
secrete sale items that do not appear in their catalogs and are only
sold in the "back room" at the shows they have. Other items like
Platinum Series items, Golden Treasures items are always increasing in
value. So it is a good idea to grab them when you spot them! Again, the
price should be good!
4) How to spot a good price. Well that is just a matter of opinion on
what a good price is. However, lets break it down a bit to help you make
a good decision. A good price starts with knowing what Fenton sold the
item for to begin with, this applies to newly created items last 5 years
or so.For older items I would turn to glass collecting price guides.
a: Original Selling Price: Often Fenton pieces go up in value and level
off for a time only to go up once again as time goes on. For recently
made pieces of glass from Fenton it may be wise to get some of their
older catalogs to see what the actual selling price of a piece was when
it was issued. This is a formidable bargaining tool ! A good sale price
is one that is at or just below the original retail. A fantastic sale
price is one that is at least 1/3rd to 1/2 off the original retail sale
price!
b: Seconds. I am of the opinion that people should avoid buying seconds,
that is just an opinion. Fenton often marks seconds with an "X" on the
bottom. Seconds are pieces that didn't turn out quite right. The color
is bad, irridization is poor, doesn't stand right, number of different
reasons why Fenton labeled them seconds. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS ASK IF AN
ITEM IS SECONDS! Seconds sell for far less because of the defects in
them during the manufacturing process. If you are not statisfied with
the answer you get. Do Not Buy It! Keep in mind this question. Why did
Fenton, the maker, mark it seconds? Why does Fenton sell them for less?
Answer! THEY ARE FAR LESS VALUABLE!
c: Age & Condition! Age & Condition is very important when considering
the price you are looking at from a seller. This is where a glass
collectors price guide and history book can be very very useful. I urge
you to buy one at your local bookstore. Price guides are called guides
for a reason! They are "guides" to what a piece is worth. The prices in
them are not carved in stone. If a seller is asking full value for an
item. It better be in mint condition free of chips, cracks, scratches or
the like. Defects like those can severly effect the value of a piece.
Buyers always need to ask to re-affirm what is meant in the sellers
description. If your answer from the seller is vague, incomplete or
answers you with another question. Ask again, or avoid buying the piece.
EXAMPLES: Sellers describes the condition as: " Item is in perfect
pristine condition free of any chips cracks or the like." You should be
asking the seller this question. Does it have any scratches on the
surface? Scratches do effect the value of some pieces like a cake plate.
Sellers describes the item "It has a small flea bite on the lip of the
creamer." You should ask the seller what they consider a "flea bite"
(size wise). On a creamer, this is devestating to the value whereas on a
figural piece like a cat, it may not effect value very much at all
depending on where it is. I cannot emphasise enough YOUR RIGHT TO ASK
QUESTIONS! Great sellers will give detailed responses.
5:Fenton QVC Pieces: Often we see on eBay items from QVC's Fenton shows.
Some are highly sought after, some are not. The prices on QVC shows are
often very good to start with. However, on eBay they should be much
better because Fenton makes thousands of them! Although many of them are
made for QVC "only" pieces they still make thousands of them so they are
not really so limited edition items. People selling these items should
reflect on why they are here selling it to begin with. Either they
purchased the items on closeout or are selling their personal
collection. You should expect better than QVC pricing on these items to
start with. But if it is a rarer item that is highly sought after,
expect a bidding war. TIP: Jump in at the last few hours of bidding and
keep a close watch on the item till auctions end. Decide ahead of time
of how high you want to go so you do not end up spending more than what
you are willing to pay for it. Sometimes you just have to let it go
sometime a few more dollars than what you initially planned to spend
bidding will win it for you!
6: In the Box New with Papers: Some items from Fenton come with papers
such as Certifcates, care instructions etc. Although not terribly
important to have. It may give you a clue as to how the piece was cared
for by the person selling it. It is always nice to have these papers,
but it doesn't effect the value of the piece you are considering very
much at all. Generally, collectors like to have the original box it came
in with all the paper work for history sake.
7: Reproductions: This is a dicey area to discuss so I am going to stick
my neck out anyhow. This is my opinion. Lets say for instance. Fenton
produced an item back in the 1920's then again in the year 2000. Is the
year 2000 piece a reproduction? I am of the opinion it is NOT a
reproduction for a couple of reasons. I would rather use the word
re-issue. When I discuss a reproduction item. It would only apply to
items that are in the same color as the original was made in. Examples
of a re-issued item would be: Fenton owns a mold that Frank Fenton
developed. Origanlly the item was made in Ruby Carnival back in the
1920's. Today Fenton releases the same item from the same mold in lets
say Vaseline Glass. Is it a repro? The answer would have to be NO!
Unless the same color was made at some earlier time in history. If it is
a new color for the piece, the piece is new, but not a reproduction.
Reproductions are an attempt to reproduce an item exactly as it was made
in the past. Re-issues are items from old molds in new colors that have
never been produced before for that item. I would consider the item to
be a new creation rather than a reproduction. So should you the reader.
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Posted by racing John on July 1, 2008, 10:47 pm
Please log in for more thread options I thought Fenton Art glass had closed there doors?
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Posted by neoglassic@peak.org on July 2, 2008, 11:29 am
Please log in for more thread options On Jul 1, 7:47=A0pm, racingj...@webtv.net (racing John) wrote:
> I thought Fenton Art glass had closed there doors?
Nope...still in biz.
http://www.fentonartglass.com/
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