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Glaze Stains Sam Kelly 03-25-2007
Posted by Sam Kelly on March 25, 2007, 7:34 pm
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Can any colouring stain be used as a glaze stain or do you have to
specifically use a certain type.

Sam



Posted by DKat on March 25, 2007, 8:29 pm
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Your question is a little open ended. There are stains that will not retain
the color they were meant to be if fired beyond the temperature range that
they are made for. When you buy the stain it will tell you the color and
the firing range.

Different oxides (colorants) will do different things in different
atmospheres (Reduction vs Oxidation) and in different chemical mixes.

Copper Oxide will be green in an oxidation and if lucky, red in reduction.
Chrome Oxide (bright green unfired) with Tin will create pink IF you use a
very small amount. Too much and you get a barfy color. Colbalt (Carbonate
is pink before being fired, Oxide is black) is almost always blue but can be
violet.

Can you clarify your question.

> Can any colouring stain be used as a glaze stain or do you have to
> specifically use a certain type.
>
> Sam
>



Posted by Sam Kelly on March 25, 2007, 9:59 pm
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Temp. range is cone9, which in my kiln(Gas) is around 1225DegC. I will be
firing in oxidation as reduction will effect the colour. A client want's
bathroom basins done in grey and I don't have a grey glaze or the time to
make and test one so I thought a grey glaze stain mixed into a base glaze
might be the easy way out.

I see that there are stains for glazes, clay bodies, underglazes etc and was
wondering what if any difference there is.

I have only ever used oxides and 99% of tha in reduction, no experience with
glaze stains at all.

Sam


> Your question is a little open ended. There are stains that will not
> retain the color they were meant to be if fired beyond the temperature
> range that they are made for. When you buy the stain it will tell you
> the color and the firing range.
>
> Different oxides (colorants) will do different things in different
> atmospheres (Reduction vs Oxidation) and in different chemical mixes.
>
> Copper Oxide will be green in an oxidation and if lucky, red in reduction.
> Chrome Oxide (bright green unfired) with Tin will create pink IF you use a
> very small amount. Too much and you get a barfy color. Colbalt
> (Carbonate is pink before being fired, Oxide is black) is almost always
> blue but can be violet.
>
> Can you clarify your question.
>
>> Can any colouring stain be used as a glaze stain or do you have to
>> specifically use a certain type.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>
>



Posted by Bob Masta on March 26, 2007, 9:44 am
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:59:07 +1000, "Sam Kelly"

>Temp. range is cone9, which in my kiln(Gas) is around 1225DegC. I will be
>firing in oxidation as reduction will effect the colour. A client want's
>bathroom basins done in grey and I don't have a grey glaze or the time to
>make and test one so I thought a grey glaze stain mixed into a base glaze
>might be the easy way out.
>
>I see that there are stains for glazes, clay bodies, underglazes etc and was
>wondering what if any difference there is.
>
>I have only ever used oxides and 99% of tha in reduction, no experience with
>glaze stains at all.
>
>Sam

I can't answer your specific question, but I can tell you to
be especially careful in this case. Grey is a well-known
problem in that it has to be specifically formulated as grey.
It is not, as most people naturally assume, "light black",
which will tend to give odd color casts instead of remaining
neutral. My feeling is that testing is going to be unavoidable
here.

How about a clear glaze over a grey-firing body? Still
need to test the specific glaze and body combo, but
maybe you already have done that....?

Best regards,




Bob Masta

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