Kiln wash keeps peeling off

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Kiln wash keeps peeling off seasa42 06-08-2007
Posted by on June 8, 2007, 1:24 pm
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I am having a heck of a time keeping my kiln wash on my shelves. When
they were new, I covered them, and they went along just fine until I
added another coat after some of the wash came off the way it should,
as in keeping the dripped glaze from sticking to the shelf. I gave
them all a good cleaning, then applied the wash as I had before, but
after the first firing with the new coat, it just flaked off.

I tried heating the shelves up, as per some info on this site, but it
really made no difference, it is still very flaky.

Could my kiln wash be too thin, too thick, does it get old?
I apply it with a small roller, as the kiln tech at Laguna clay told
me to do.
And, it's a natural gas kiln, in case that makes any difference.
Sa


Posted by DKat on June 8, 2007, 2:51 pm
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This will happen if the wash is applied too thickly. I sometimes wet sponge
the shelf before applying wash. Did you mix up the wash fresh or has it
been sitting? If it has been sitting then evaporation will might have made
it thicker. I put on a real thin coat, do the bisque fire with the shelves,
then apply another thin coat for the glaze fire. I never have been able to
get the shelves like I like them though.

Donna

>I am having a heck of a time keeping my kiln wash on my shelves. When
> they were new, I covered them, and they went along just fine until I
> added another coat after some of the wash came off the way it should,
> as in keeping the dripped glaze from sticking to the shelf. I gave
> them all a good cleaning, then applied the wash as I had before, but
> after the first firing with the new coat, it just flaked off.
>
> I tried heating the shelves up, as per some info on this site, but it
> really made no difference, it is still very flaky.
>
> Could my kiln wash be too thin, too thick, does it get old?
> I apply it with a small roller, as the kiln tech at Laguna clay told
> me to do.
> And, it's a natural gas kiln, in case that makes any difference.
> Sa
>



Posted by on June 8, 2007, 4:02 pm
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Thanks, will do. I do think I had it to thick, and it has been sitting
around. Wetting the shelf also sounds like a great idea, duh, I
shoulda known.
Sa


Posted by =?iso-8859-1?q?M=FCddSlingger? on June 24, 2007, 6:27 pm
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On Jun 8, 1:02 pm, seas...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Thanks, will do. I do think I had it to thick, and it has been sitting
> around. Wetting the shelf also sounds like a great idea, duh, I
> shoulda known.
> Sa

You don't want to wet the shelf before you apply the kiln wash...
except maybe to lightly sponge off the dust from sanding off the old
kiln wash. Applying wash to a wet shelf could cause it to flake off.
just like applying glaze to wet bisqueware could cause glaze to shiver/
flake off.

You should sand off the old kiln wash (so no wash flakes off and
falls into your glazed pieces) and flip the shelf to stifle warpage.
There are a lot of kiln wash recipes out there on the web... a simple
one is:

33 EPK
66 Aluminum Hydrate
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100

Some recipes additionally call for ball clay and/or silica (AKA flint
or SiO2). the application may vary too as some clays like to stick to
anything with silica.

I apply wash with a large paint brush, I find I have more control of
the thickness that way... However if you have tons of shelves to do it
might take all day. The roll on might be more time efficient. The key
to applying kiln wash STIR OFTEN! like every 4-5 brush strokes or
every time you dunk the roller; kiln wash settles lightning fast.

I brush on two coats leaving them to dry fully between coats. Then I
scrape the edge to make sure I don't have any excess wash on the edges
that might flake off onto a glazed piece. Then I use the newly coated
shelves in a bisque firing first before I use them in a glaze firing.
The selves get used from ^06 electric to ^10R.

Peace,
Darin


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