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Posted by Kris Krieger on June 25, 2008, 1:49 pm
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>>> It's odd to call other posters bullies. We're just little words on a
>>> pc screen, just emails. Only one glassworker I know has ever posted
>>> to this group. I'm just another old turkey, doing glass by myself
>>> and knowing only a few others who do it. Once in a great while I may
>>> have an idea. Once in a while I feel like responding to a post -
>>> like now. I have sometimes got useful information from other
>>> posters. Would the group be better if we actually knew each other?
>>> Probably. Would the group be better if we had more to say?
>>> Certainly. But it's a connection to others doing what I do. I'm glad
>>> you're all out there. I'm glad the group exists.
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>>> I would like to see more links to other folks' sites and more images
>>> of work.
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>>> John Bassett
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>> Just about everyone who posts here is a glassworker of some sort be
>> it cold, warm or hot glass. I think you've been around this group
>> long enough to know that participation comes and goes. Sometimes the
>> group is extremely active and other times it's sound to sleep.
>> Anyway, post a website if you have one. Here's mine:
>> http://www.neoglassic.com
>> http://www.earth2glass.weebly.com
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>> Andy
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>> you know you are right. But there is some truth in the string that i
>> was refering to. I have tried to be in the very capable hands of
>> these bullies. I have been making hot glass for 20 years and i have
>> been following this group for a few years. There is a lot of good
>> questions here. Some are interesting for me some are not. I do feel
>> that i could contribute but why bother when this group allready have
>> some noble people who knows it all and if i say the wrong thing they
>> will all be on top of me
>> peer
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> Peer wrote in a moment of deja vu .... "if i say the wrong thing they
> will all be on top of me"
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> You mean like now? I haven't seen anybody get all "on top of" anyone
> without them being an antogonist.
> Are you an antagonist? If you are, you are a very subtle one, but
> why not post whatever it is you have to say? 20 years of glass
> blowing certainly give you the knowledge to tell one of these
> know-it-alls to stuff it!! Or don't you do that?
My view is that everyone has differnet experience, learns different
techniques, develops their own ways to work around difficulaties, and so
on. Which means that everyone has a slightly different viewpoint.
OFten, things are misinterpreted as being critical, when they weren't
meant to be so - all we have is typed words, with no input from vocal
inflection, body language, or anything else, so misinterpretation is all
too easy.
So, before rushing to assume someone is being a "bully", first stop and
ask them for clarification, becasue it might just tbe a matter of
misunderstanding.
If the person continues to act like a jerk, plonk them - that';s what
killfiles are for, in newsreaders: shutting out obnoxious, rude, nasty
people who've nothing better to do than behave like curs. Definitely
*don't* feel like they have some sort of final say over who can or can't
post.
I'm new to this particualr group, but have been in groups since 1992, and
i've seen all sorts of jerks, including a couple of people who would put
someone else's name as their own so as to try to discredit the person, or
send threats, and so on. They'll stomp on someone exactly as much as one
allows onself to be stomped on...
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> Look, if it bothers you that some people on here won't stand for
> another to blow smoke about something, then ignore it, who cares?
> But if you feel you have a question, or an answer, hell, write it, you
> have as much right to do so as anyone else, and this is the internet
> ,after all, the bullies won't come knocking on your door and dispute
> what you said to your face.
Exactly! Well said :)
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> Say what you have to say, but my own suggestion , "let sleeping dogs
> lie" to hell with that bully thread, if it were important don't you
> think it would still be running? Sure there is some animosity here,
> but there is in real life too, I don't particularly like my neighbor
> putting her yapping dog out my back window at 6:30 am everyday, but I
> haven't killed it......yet.
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Yup - no matter where you go or what you do, or what field of endeavor
you're working in, there will *always* be someone who has some perverse
need to put other poeple down, so as to try to make themselves look grand
- IMO, all they succeed in doing in making themselves look foolish, but
unfortunately, a lot or people take the put-downs to heart. But the fact
is that, *if* someone is just plain nasty/overbearing, it's not "because
of" what someone else did or said, it's only because such people are just
nasty/overbearing no matter *what*, and will often "bite teh hand that
feeds them" so to speak, meaning, be nasty/overbearing even to peole who
are trying to be civil or even nice to them. I've certainly expereinced
*that* sort of numbskull over the past five decades - some people are
abusive (verbally or even physically) no matter what anyone else does,
good or bad, and if anything, the nicer you try to be, the worse some
people will treat you - and often, the worse one treats such people, the
moer they'll suck up to one.
Some people are jsut mean, is all. Mean poeple usually have a dark,
stormy, dismal internal landscape, devoid of ligh tor joy or lvoe, and
their meanness is merely a reflection of their own inner miasma, and is
not "caused by" what someone else does or says.
Best thing is to ignore them or, better yet, plonk them.
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