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Those darned bubbles! Bubbles_ 09-25-2007
Posted by Bob Masta on October 9, 2007, 8:56 am
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>Original post below.
>
>I am just wondering about something. My wheel is aluminium, and it oxidizes,
>so that I get a black stain on the back of my left hand from centering - but
>I also get it in some of the clay that I later reclaim.
>
>Is aluminium a possible cause of these bubbles? Should I stick to
>new-bought clay and/or treat my wheel with something so it doesn't let off
>particles?
>

No, this aluminum should not cause any problem at all. Note that
aluminum oxide melts at a very high temperature (stiffens glazes),
whereas whatever is causing the bubbles is something that is actually
boiling, or more likely burning, at your firing temperatures. The
combustion gasses are released as bubbles that appear in the
slow-to-heal glaze. (There are other possibilities, like release of
chemically-bound gasses from some minerals, which don't actually
constitute "burning" as such, but the result is the same.)

Best regards,


Bob Masta

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Posted by Bubbles_ on October 10, 2007, 8:45 pm
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> No, this aluminum should not cause any problem at all. Note that
> aluminum oxide melts at a very high temperature (stiffens glazes),
> whereas whatever is causing the bubbles is something that is actually
> boiling, or more likely burning, at your firing temperatures. The
> combustion gasses are released as bubbles that appear in the
> slow-to-heal glaze. (There are other possibilities, like release of
> chemically-bound gasses from some minerals, which don't actually
> constitute "burning" as such, but the result is the same.)


Hi Bob

If aluminium stiffens glazes, couldn't it be that the release of it from the
clay, trying to get out through the glaze - causes the glaze to stiffen and
thus the bubbles not to melt back "in position"?

I know that may be a stupid question, but I have found that I only learn if
I ask questions about things I don't understand :-)

Marianne



Posted by Bob Masta on October 11, 2007, 8:10 am
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wrote:

>
>
>> No, this aluminum should not cause any problem at all. Note that
>> aluminum oxide melts at a very high temperature (stiffens glazes),
>> whereas whatever is causing the bubbles is something that is actually
>> boiling, or more likely burning, at your firing temperatures. The
>> combustion gasses are released as bubbles that appear in the
>> slow-to-heal glaze. (There are other possibilities, like release of
>> chemically-bound gasses from some minerals, which don't actually
>> constitute "burning" as such, but the result is the same.)
>
>
>Hi Bob
>
>If aluminium stiffens glazes, couldn't it be that the release of it from the
>clay, trying to get out through the glaze - causes the glaze to stiffen and
>thus the bubbles not to melt back "in position"?

As Dewitt mentioned, aluminum oxide is very common in clays and
glazes, and the amount from your oxidized wheel is trivial by
comparison. However, even if you had a lot more (say, if you
deliberately worked powdered alumina into the clay or something),
you'd find that alumina by itself wouldn't melt at kiln temperatures
without a flux. It wouldn't "release" from the clay.

Alumina that was on the surface and mixed with glaze fluxes
would retard their melting in the mix zone. My guess is that
this surface alumina would not migrate far up into the glaze
itself... I don't think it would dissolve in it very easily and raise
its overall melting (freezing) point, unless you held the kiln
at a high temperature that would keep the glaze molten long
enough to allow the alumina to mix. my guess is that if you
held it that long, assuming the glaze didn't run off the pot,
that all the bubbles would have time to work out through
the molten glaze, anyway.

But to reiterate, I don't think alumina is your problem at all.

>I know that may be a stupid question, but I have found that I only learn if
>I ask questions about things I don't understand :-)
>
>Marianne
>

More than one instructor has said that "the only foolish question
is the one you don't ask"!

Best regards,



Bob Masta

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Posted by Dewitt on October 9, 2007, 9:10 am
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wrote:

>Original post below.
>
>I am just wondering about something. My wheel is aluminium, and it oxidizes,
>so that I get a black stain on the back of my left hand from centering - but
>I also get it in some of the clay that I later reclaim.
>
>Is aluminium a possible cause of these bubbles? Should I stick to
>new-bought clay and/or treat my wheel with something so it doesn't let off
>particles?
>
>Marianne
>

Not to worry, aluminum oxide (alumina) is one of the primary
components of clay and glazes. And the amount you might get in your
clay from your aluminum wheel head is very, very small.

My vote as to what pottery "chemistry" book you should get is "Clay
and Glazes for the Potter" by Rhodes. The latest edition is by Rhodes
/ Hopper, but for what you'll want an older edition is fine.

But don't expect to be able to jump in and easily fix glaze problems.
That's an art as much as a science and pinholing can be caused by any
number of problems - underfired bisque, underfired glaze, overfired
glaze, the phase of the moon, orientation of your kiln to magnetic
north, etc., etc., etc.

deg

Posted by Bubbles_ on October 10, 2007, 8:47 pm
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> Not to worry, aluminum oxide (alumina) is one of the primary
> components of clay and glazes. And the amount you might get in your
> clay from your aluminum wheel head is very, very small.
>
> My vote as to what pottery "chemistry" book you should get is "Clay
> and Glazes for the Potter" by Rhodes. The latest edition is by Rhodes
> / Hopper, but for what you'll want an older edition is fine.
>
> But don't expect to be able to jump in and easily fix glaze problems.
> That's an art as much as a science and pinholing can be caused by any
> number of problems - underfired bisque, underfired glaze, overfired
> glaze, the phase of the moon, orientation of your kiln to magnetic
> north, etc., etc., etc.

Hi Deg

I am beginning to wonder if I shouldn't make a blood sacrifice before each
glaze kiln now! LOL!

Thanks for the book suggestion. Added to my list :-)

Marianne




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