Weatherproofing copper foil...?

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Weatherproofing copper foil...? Kris Krieger 06-03-2008
Posted by Chemo the Clown on June 3, 2008, 8:53 pm
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> Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and
> don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last
> diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in
> place and hang from one end.<<
>
> Yeah, but you are a special sort of guy. =A0The rest of us ain't that
> talented.
>
> You musta turbo-soldered that bevel in place, otherwise the water would ha=
ve
> all boiled out. =A0LOL

But of course I turbo-soldered it...is there any other way?

Posted by Moonraker on June 3, 2008, 10:01 pm
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>
> Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and
> don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last
> diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in
> place and hang from one end.<<
>
> Yeah, but you are a special sort of guy. The rest of us ain't that
> talented.
>
> You musta turbo-soldered that bevel in place, otherwise the water would
> have
> all boiled out. LOL

But of course I turbo-soldered it...is there any other way?

If you were a true basement bandit artisan buying your supplies wholesale
and having a website persona, you'd have a big vat of molten solder and do
a dip-n-dunk in order to save all that time soldering those joints. Ain't
you learned nuttin from hanging around here?



Posted by charlie on June 4, 2008, 10:35 am
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wrote:
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> > Hi,
>
> > I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. I'm doing copper foil. Can the
> > patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? I thought about paste-
> > waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info
> > would
> > be great.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > - Kris
>
> You could wax it every now and then with something like Clarity Glass
> Wax but...it's my experience that overall, copperfoiled work doesn't
> fair all that well when left to the exposed weather. The solder seams
> tend to get rather ugly (oxidized) over time.
>
> --
> since there's no seal between the glass and the foil, it's not possible to
> weatherproof foiled work. that's why god invented lead came with putty.

Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and
don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last
diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in
place and hang from one end.


--

since the solder isn't chemically attached to the glass, imho, you're
depending upon the adhesive of the foil instead of really weather- or
water-proofing the seam. eventually it will fail.



Posted by michele on June 4, 2008, 8:13 pm
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so will a cemented piece. i have made lots of garden items (in a past life)
that have held up over time. even lead oxidzes, and worse the cement falls
apart. If properly designed, foiled pieces are extremely tolerant to
weather, use a good polish, maybe kem-o -pro and let nature take her course.
you will get oxidation on either lead or foil in time .m



> since the solder isn't chemically attached to the glass, imho, you're
> depending upon the adhesive of the foil instead of really weather- or
> water-proofing the seam. eventually it will fail.
>



Posted by Kris Krieger on June 5, 2008, 10:54 pm
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> so will a cemented piece. i have made lots of garden items (in a past
> life) that have held up over time. even lead oxidzes, and worse the
> cement falls apart. If properly designed, foiled pieces are extremely
> tolerant to weather, use a good polish, maybe kem-o -pro and let
> nature take her course. you will get oxidation on either lead or foil
> in time .m

Maybe, then, I'll try a very thing bead of silicone...I'm not so much
worried about the look of th eoxidized lead, as about the possibility of
structural failure. OTOH, peopl emake scuptures with glass adhesives, so
maybe a thin like of that around the edges of the metal to help seal the
copper/glass interface?


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>
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>> since the solder isn't chemically attached to the glass, imho, you're
>> depending upon the adhesive of the foil instead of really weather- or
>> water-proofing the seam. eventually it will fail.
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