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Wine coolers Red Deer 05-21-2007
Posted by Red Deer on May 21, 2007, 5:29 pm
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Hi Everyone,
I've been invited to sell my pots at a wine festival in June. I make
stoneware pots but I wanted to make some wine cooler pots for this
event and I was wondering if stoneware will work as a wine cooler.
All my glazes are cone 6. If I just bisque them, will that work? I
want to at least put some glaze on maybe the bottom third of the pot.
Do I need to make the little saucer for it to sit on? Does anyone
know if stoneware wine coolers work if they are fired to cone 6?
Thanks,
Sandi


Posted by DKat on May 21, 2007, 8:24 pm
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This is only a guess but 'no'. You need something that is going to absorb
water. It is the evaporation of the water that cools the 'cooler'. I have
only seen low fired terracotta wine coolers. I could be entirely wrong -
JMO. Donna


> Hi Everyone,
> I've been invited to sell my pots at a wine festival in June. I make
> stoneware pots but I wanted to make some wine cooler pots for this
> event and I was wondering if stoneware will work as a wine cooler.
> All my glazes are cone 6. If I just bisque them, will that work? I
> want to at least put some glaze on maybe the bottom third of the pot.
> Do I need to make the little saucer for it to sit on? Does anyone
> know if stoneware wine coolers work if they are fired to cone 6?
> Thanks,
> Sandi
>



Posted by Bob Masta on May 22, 2007, 8:53 am
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wrote:

>This is only a guess but 'no'. You need something that is going to absorb
>water. It is the evaporation of the water that cools the 'cooler'. I have
>only seen low fired terracotta wine coolers. I could be entirely wrong -
>JMO. Donna

Bisque will absorb water just fine (otherwise it'd be pretty hard to
get the glaze to go on, in normal use!).

>> Hi Everyone,
>> I've been invited to sell my pots at a wine festival in June. I make
>> stoneware pots but I wanted to make some wine cooler pots for this
>> event and I was wondering if stoneware will work as a wine cooler.
>> All my glazes are cone 6. If I just bisque them, will that work? I
>> want to at least put some glaze on maybe the bottom third of the pot.
>> Do I need to make the little saucer for it to sit on? Does anyone
>> know if stoneware wine coolers work if they are fired to cone 6?
>> Thanks,
>> Sandi

The issue here is that if you are going to have porous bisque,
which you need for the evaporation, you won't be able to fire
it much higher than (say) cone 04. Now if you want to put
glaze on the bottom third (or wherever), there are plenty of
low-fire cone 04 glazes around. The problem (in my limited
experience) is that they will craze on stoneware. That may or
may not be a problem for this application: You don't need
a food-safe surface, so the only issue is whether there
would be some adverse effect like the absorbed moisture
causing the glaze to pop off (which I guess might be true
even if the glaze didn't craze, since there will be so much
absorbtion). So the only thing to do is test.

If the glaze doesn't work, you might want to try some
sort of staining, inlay, engobe, etc. Or maybe just carve
it up real pretty and let that be the decoration.

Best regards.


Bob Masta

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Posted by DKat on May 22, 2007, 5:30 pm
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But they want to glaze the inside and fire to cone6 which would not do well
IMO. If it were just bisque fired (cone06) I agree that might work fine.
It might work to try a low fire glaze inside only but I don't think that
will keep it from weeping... It has been a long time since I played with
lowfire glazes.


> wrote:
>
>>This is only a guess but 'no'. You need something that is going to absorb
>>water. It is the evaporation of the water that cools the 'cooler'. I
>>have
>>only seen low fired terracotta wine coolers. I could be entirely wrong -
>>JMO. Donna
>
> Bisque will absorb water just fine (otherwise it'd be pretty hard to
> get the glaze to go on, in normal use!).
>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I've been invited to sell my pots at a wine festival in June. I make
>>> stoneware pots but I wanted to make some wine cooler pots for this
>>> event and I was wondering if stoneware will work as a wine cooler.
>>> All my glazes are cone 6. If I just bisque them, will that work? I
>>> want to at least put some glaze on maybe the bottom third of the pot.
>>> Do I need to make the little saucer for it to sit on? Does anyone
>>> know if stoneware wine coolers work if they are fired to cone 6?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sandi
>
> The issue here is that if you are going to have porous bisque,
> which you need for the evaporation, you won't be able to fire
> it much higher than (say) cone 04. Now if you want to put
> glaze on the bottom third (or wherever), there are plenty of
> low-fire cone 04 glazes around. The problem (in my limited
> experience) is that they will craze on stoneware. That may or
> may not be a problem for this application: You don't need
> a food-safe surface, so the only issue is whether there
> would be some adverse effect like the absorbed moisture
> causing the glaze to pop off (which I guess might be true
> even if the glaze didn't craze, since there will be so much
> absorbtion). So the only thing to do is test.
>
> If the glaze doesn't work, you might want to try some
> sort of staining, inlay, engobe, etc. Or maybe just carve
> it up real pretty and let that be the decoration.
>
> Best regards.
>
>
> Bob Masta
>
> D A Q A R T A
> Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
> www.daqarta.com
> Scope, Spectrum, Spectrogram, Signal Generator
> Science with your sound card!



Posted by Bubbles_ on May 31, 2007, 5:16 pm
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> Hi Everyone,
> I've been invited to sell my pots at a wine festival in June. I make
> stoneware pots but I wanted to make some wine cooler pots for this
> event and I was wondering if stoneware will work as a wine cooler.
> All my glazes are cone 6. If I just bisque them, will that work? I
> want to at least put some glaze on maybe the bottom third of the pot.
> Do I need to make the little saucer for it to sit on? Does anyone
> know if stoneware wine coolers work if they are fired to cone 6?
> Thanks,
> Sandi

Stoneware does not absorb water. Wine-coolers cool because the water they
have lain in has been absorbed and then evaporates. The evaporation causes
the cooling.

In other words - earthenware - not stoneware - is the thing.

That means that you COULD glaze, but not at stoneware temperatures.

We had one such cooler that just had a little dish to set under it (if it
weeps). That dish could always be glazed, I guess.

Marianne



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