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forge pics MatthewK 02-19-2007
Posted by MatthewK on February 19, 2007, 12:13 am
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Recently built a forge and here is one of pics Alvin is hosting.

http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/hosting/MKbest-fire.jpg

If you go to this address you can see the others.
http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/hosting/

Look for anything MK*.jpg

I also have some knife pics too, it was made my stock removal with files.


My first test with heat treating went pretty good, I was playing around
tonight and didn't have much luck though.

matthew
ohio

Posted by heChas on February 19, 2007, 3:23 pm
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Thanks for the pics. That's a neat setup...just right for knifes I imagine.
What type of wool and surface hardener did you use? And where can one buy
them online? Again, thanks.



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Posted by Chilla on February 19, 2007, 4:04 pm
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Hey heChas,

I try to reserve buying industrial supplies online to things I just
can't get locally.

It's best to see what you can get by ringing around, usually you can
save on postage, and online prices are usually fixed. If you get a
chance to chinwag sometimes (not always) you can get a discount.


Regards Charles

heChas wrote:
> Thanks for the pics. That's a neat setup...just right for knifes I imagine.
> What type of wool and surface hardener did you use? And where can one buy
> them online? Again, thanks.
>
>
>


Posted by MatthewK on February 19, 2007, 4:11 pm
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:23:40 -0700, heChas wrote:

> Thanks for the pics. That's a neat setup...just right for knifes I imagine.
> What type of wool and surface hardener did you use? And where can one buy
> them online? Again, thanks.
>
>
>

Thanks, I ended up buying everything from Darren Ellis. The pottery sites
I saw only sold the refractory coating in large quantities. I figure I
was keeping money in the "comunity too. Pottery sites carry all the stuff
though. I used inswool and satanite for the refractory coating.

Last night I was playing with heat treating 1095.....it didn't go well at
all. First I think the bernzs-o-matic tank is too low and the preasure
isn't as high as it could be....maybe not. Anyway, the forge didn't seem
to get really hot or heat to evenly. The outside temp. was somewhere in
the low teens that night....maybe lower. Then I was quenching it hot water
140 degrees to 150...which was too slow I think.

Maybe the metal wasn't hot enough to begin with.....but after the quench
it came out bendable. If the metal temp was lower than optimal...it still
should have been brittle.....I think. If the metal wasn't critical, it was
close. I quenched the end of a file that was above critical....hit it with
a hammer a few times and no breakage.

I think the water quench was the main culprit.....I'm going to hook up a
larger propane tank to the forge and try again with slightly cooler water....

When I quenched it the hot water, I could see the glowing steel for a few
seconds....I think I need a less stable vapor film so I'll try cooler
water. I moved it around and everything...still glowed red.

The test pieces where 1/8 inch thick and an 1.5 inches by 1 inch.

I need to get some oil. I still think I need to get a charcoal setup for
heat treating and use gas for forging. :)

matthew
ohio

Posted by Chilla on February 19, 2007, 7:30 pm
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Why do you think that?

You could effectively heat up the blade in the forge then quench. You
can temper a blade on a stove top or a toaster oven.

There shouldn't be any need for a charcoal forge unless like me you need
a large charcoal forge for a special job.


Regards Charles


MatthewK wrote:
> I need to get some oil. I still think I need to get a charcoal setup for
> heat treating and use gas for forging. :)


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