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glass sales off 20% overall diddlywhoot 07-11-2006
Posted by Kalera on July 15, 2006, 7:42 pm
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neoglassic@peak.org wrote:
> Kalera wrote:
>
> There is something hell of funky going on with Chinese economics. I
> just
> bought a $6 shovel. The hardware store probably paid about $3.00, and
> they most likely bought it from a distributor rather than directly, so
>
> the distributor probably paid $1.50. I am having a hard time
> understanding how that shovel got here from China for less than that.
> =======
>
> Here's how. You paid $6. The hardware store paid $3 (maybe) If the
> distributor paid $1.50 (probably more like $2 as they work on a lower
> margin). The Chinese shipped 250,000 shovels over here on one order
> which gives them half a million bucks and it probably cost them 50¢ to
> make the shovel. Whose making the most money? Oh yeah...when you divide
> the shipping between 250,000 shovels it doesn't add but a few cents to
> each shovel. Now, rakes are another story......(BAG)

Here's the part that's really got me. A decent per-ton shipping price is
just under $200 for something really compact and heavy (glass, tile,
etc). It's more for less compact items, such as, say, shovels, but I'm
not sure how much more so I will go with $200/ton. The shovel weighs
about 4 lbs. That's 500 shovels per ton, at .40 a shovel. I haven't even
tried to figure out how import tariffs, small as they are, figure into
this equation.

The raw materials that go into making a shovel are worth more than .50 US.
--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.bridgetownglass.com
On eBay: http://www.snurl.com/1sfe

Posted by glassman on July 16, 2006, 1:40 am
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Kalera wrote:

There is something hell of funky going on with Chinese economics. I
just
bought a $6 shovel. The hardware store probably paid about $3.00, and
they most likely bought it from a distributor rather than directly, so

the distributor probably paid $1.50. I am having a hard time
understanding how that shovel got here from China for less than that.


My latest amazing "how do they do it" story is these .99 cent stores
opening up all over the place. They take over 2 or 3 strip mall stores and
stock thousands of everyday items all for the same .99 cents. Hardware,
cleaning supplies, tools, canned food, sundries, electrical, soap, shampoo,
computer cables, you name it. Most are name brands and the parts are all
carded and shrink wrapped. Sure the quality is low end, but basically the
stuff all works fine. How much are they paying for each, how much is the
disty paying? Who owns all these places? I see Asians & Indians mostly. It's
incredible how busy they are all day and night. You can't walk out without
filling up a bag of stuff. They underprice Radio Shack, Supermarkets,
Costco,Wallmart, even the flea markets by at least 50%.


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JK Sinrod
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Posted by Kalera on July 16, 2006, 3:34 pm
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glassman wrote:
> Kalera wrote:
>
> There is something hell of funky going on with Chinese economics. I
> just
> bought a $6 shovel. The hardware store probably paid about $3.00, and
> they most likely bought it from a distributor rather than directly, so
>
> the distributor probably paid $1.50. I am having a hard time
> understanding how that shovel got here from China for less than that.
>
>
> My latest amazing "how do they do it" story is these .99 cent stores
> opening up all over the place. They take over 2 or 3 strip mall stores and
> stock thousands of everyday items all for the same .99 cents. Hardware,
> cleaning supplies, tools, canned food, sundries, electrical, soap, shampoo,
> computer cables, you name it. Most are name brands and the parts are all
> carded and shrink wrapped. Sure the quality is low end, but basically the
> stuff all works fine. How much are they paying for each, how much is the
> disty paying? Who owns all these places? I see Asians & Indians mostly. It's
> incredible how busy they are all day and night. You can't walk out without
> filling up a bag of stuff. They underprice Radio Shack, Supermarkets,
> Costco,Wallmart, even the flea markets by at least 50%.

Here are two observations I've made about these places;

1. A lot of the stuff is "surplus" so the distributor sold it at no
profit or even at a loss just to get it the hell out of their warehouse.

2. A lot of the other stuff is either reasonably priced or overpriced
for what it is.


--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.bridgetownglass.com
On eBay: http://www.snurl.com/1sfe

Posted by Steve Ackman on July 15, 2006, 8:17 pm
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10:34:24 -0700, Kalera wrote:

> There is something hell of funky going on with Chinese economics. I just
> bought a $6 shovel. The hardware store probably paid about $3.00, and
> they most likely bought it from a distributor rather than directly, so
> the distributor probably paid $1.50. I am having a hard time
> understanding how that shovel got here from China for less than that.

Low wages + Chinese gov't fixed exchange rate.

If the Yuan was traded on the open market (as is
just about every other currency in the world), prices
of Chinese goods would go up. As it is, the Chinese
gov't keeps the value artificially low at ~8 Yuan to
the dollar.

Posted by Kalera on July 15, 2006, 8:39 pm
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Steve Ackman wrote:
> 10:34:24 -0700, Kalera wrote:
>
>> There is something hell of funky going on with Chinese economics. I just
>> bought a $6 shovel. The hardware store probably paid about $3.00, and
>> they most likely bought it from a distributor rather than directly, so
>> the distributor probably paid $1.50. I am having a hard time
>> understanding how that shovel got here from China for less than that.
>
> Low wages + Chinese gov't fixed exchange rate.
>
> If the Yuan was traded on the open market (as is
> just about every other currency in the world), prices
> of Chinese goods would go up. As it is, the Chinese
> gov't keeps the value artificially low at ~8 Yuan to
> the dollar.

That's fishy in itself, but I also just don't understand it when I can
buy finished goods for less than the cost of materials. One example is
seeing lampwork beads at shows, purportedly (and to my eye,
legitimately) made with Bullseye glass but selling for less than
Bullseye rods sell for per pound, wholesale.

Mysterious.

--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.bridgetownglass.com
On eBay: http://www.snurl.com/1sfe

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