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glaze gone bad Red Deer 09-30-2006
Posted by m on October 3, 2006, 12:50 pm
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David Coggins wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > Can glazes go bad?
>
> Yes ... over time some ingredients of a glaze can get slowly dissolved in
> the water. When the glaze is applied to the pot, the dissolved ingredient is
> absorbed into the clay and out of the glaze mix. Hence, the glaze mix is no
> longer complete, and all sorts of problems follow.

I was not aware of this. It leads me to ask a question.

I am in the habit of keeping 5 gallons of glaze. When the level in the
bucket goes down so much that it is hard to apply through dipping, I
mix more and add it in. Is it the case that I am susceptable to this
problem? I probably go through 5 gallons of my more popular glazes
once a year, but others can take longer.

Thanks,

Mark.


Posted by David Coggins on October 3, 2006, 4:45 pm
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>> > Hi Everyone,
>> > Can glazes go bad?
>>
>> Yes ... over time some ingredients of a glaze can get slowly dissolved in
>> the water. When the glaze is applied to the pot, the dissolved ingredient
>> is
>> absorbed into the clay and out of the glaze mix. Hence, the glaze mix is
>> no
>> longer complete, and all sorts of problems follow.
>
> I was not aware of this. It leads me to ask a question.
>
> I am in the habit of keeping 5 gallons of glaze. When the level in the
> bucket goes down so much that it is hard to apply through dipping, I
> mix more and add it in. Is it the case that I am susceptable to this
> problem? I probably go through 5 gallons of my more popular glazes
> once a year, but others can take longer.

If you are not having any trouble with your glazes, I wouldn't worry about
it - we have glaze mixes ten years old which are still OK. It probably only
happens with a small number of ingredients - and in my experience only on
low fire glazes.

Cheers

Dave



Posted by Bob Masta on October 4, 2006, 8:37 am
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 06:45:04 +1000, "David Coggins"

>
>>> > Hi Everyone,
>>> > Can glazes go bad?
>>>
>>> Yes ... over time some ingredients of a glaze can get slowly dissolved in
>>> the water. When the glaze is applied to the pot, the dissolved ingredient
>>> is
>>> absorbed into the clay and out of the glaze mix. Hence, the glaze mix is
>>> no
>>> longer complete, and all sorts of problems follow.
>>
>> I was not aware of this. It leads me to ask a question.
>>
>> I am in the habit of keeping 5 gallons of glaze. When the level in the
>> bucket goes down so much that it is hard to apply through dipping, I
>> mix more and add it in. Is it the case that I am susceptable to this
>> problem? I probably go through 5 gallons of my more popular glazes
>> once a year, but others can take longer.
>
>If you are not having any trouble with your glazes, I wouldn't worry about
>it - we have glaze mixes ten years old which are still OK. It probably only
>happens with a small number of ingredients - and in my experience only on
>low fire glazes.
>

My understanding is that colemanite (Gerstley borate and
the like) is supposed to be infamous for this. I use a lot
of this in my glazes and have never noticed a problem, but
then I tend to mix small batches.

Solubles tend to be fluxes, so if they go into solution
and hence are able to penetrate into the body, then
I'd expect the rest of the glaze to have a harder time
melting, and maybe look more matte.

Just a thought....


Bob Masta
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Posted by Steve Mills on October 4, 2006, 9:39 am
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That's quite interesting from my point of view;

I have a blue Raku Glaze which exhibits some interesting behaviour, it
contains a mixture of Copper Carbonate and Cobalt Oxide along with a
High Alkaline Frit and a bit of china clay.
When first mixed and for the first month it is BLUE!
From then on it gets progressively more interesting as the Copper starts
to act on it. It gets more and more lustrous, and also starts to develop
mauves and other subtle hues.
However after about 18 to 20 months it suddenly goes haywire, and
becomes very matt, black, and a bit like coal clinkers in aspect, so I
always make up a new batch when the current one is about 16 months old!

So it would seem on the face of it that flux solubility may well be the
reason.

Steve
Bath
UK

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>
>Solubles tend to be fluxes, so if they go into solution
>and hence are able to penetrate into the body, then
>I'd expect the rest of the glaze to have a harder time
>melting, and maybe look more matte.
>
>Just a thought....
>
>
>Bob Masta
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Steve Mills
Bath
UK

Posted by on October 2, 2006, 10:53 pm
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Red Deer wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> Can glazes go bad? I have a glaze that was real nice when it was new
> (two years ago). Now it seems to have gone bad. The pots with this
> glaze on them come out of the kiln with what looks like bubbles that
> have formed and burst open but never smoothed over. All the other
> pieces in the same load come out fine with different glazes. I fire to
> cone 6 oxidation. No matter which clay I use, this particular glaze
> has been unsuitable lately. It is laguna sage matte. Thanks to anyone
> answering this question.
> Sandi - Hi - suggest if have glazes that are old, try firing a small sample
first - save a pot!


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